Snow chain

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Snow chain

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What is the best use of chains?
I have purchased a pair of chains, :evil:
The buyer never tried driving on snow, he lives in a different town.
I did try them on snow and try to climb an asfelt road covered with snow, I did it with difficulty. (rear tiers)
The crowd was stuned 8) .
The second day I had problem while putting the chains again so I putted them (crossing) front left and rear right.
I think it was a big mistake due to the diff effect :oops: , and I failed.
So I purchased a second pair :twisted: , and hope to still have snow till the next week end. :lol:
Should I decrease the Tiers pressure while putting chains?
Can I use the chains on mud?
How fast and long can I use the chains on asfelt road?
Any suggestions for better climbing on snow?

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Post by Mik »

Always use the snow chains on both the front and rear axle at the same time. You probably shouldn't exceed 50 km/h. I can see that your snow chains are only across the tires - if you use ones which also goes along the middle og the tire your steering is improved a lot :) I use Michelin snow chains during winter time - a lot of fun. If you try them in mud it makes your truck nearly unstopable :)
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Dear Mike, let me get that right, I CAN use the chains on mud?
I have never seen a photo of mud advanture with 4x4 tiers covered with chains. :?
However disco previously sayed that " I came away with a set of four snow/mud chains (need derusting)"
Mik wrote: if you use ones which also goes along the middle og the tire your steering is improved a lot :) .
Can you upload a photo so I can understand
:idea:

Unfotunatley we had a few hot days so no more snow in the normal places, and the half of nation was their on the week end with their small cars, so I could not be free to climb and search for a clean surface covered with snow.
Yet, I manajed to rescu a van (about 1200 to 1400 KG I suppose) and saved the day for him.
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Post by Mik »

I don't have access to my photos here, but maybe have a look at this link

http://www.galttech.com/research/cars/b ... chains.php
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Many thanks, but still looking for the mud photos, I hope that get an easy acssec to your photos.
some advices as written:
http://chainbuddy.com/TireChainTips.html
http://rudchain.thomasnet.com/viewitems ... &forward=1
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Sorry - I thought you ment the patterne of the chains :)
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this video illustrats my mistakes.
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Now I have gat 2 pairs of chains, but no snow :lol: .
Do you think that the chains will help on ice as on snow ?
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Post by disco2hse »

Hi Dani,

First off, this link might help to answer some of your questions.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/ ... hains.html

Secondly, it looks in the video as though you didn't your centre diff lock engaged, but either way you need four chains not two. Having two is potentially dangerous.
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Post by Mik »

Hi Dani,

On ice without snow, Studded tires are much better that snow chains :)
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Post by landdani »

Thanks all,
after readin the link I realaised that I am still need some hard answers:
1- Yes, chains will help on mud.
2- if you are using 4x4 car then 4 chains are better than 2.
3- if you only have 2 chains, then used them on front tyers as it will help steering and clear the road for the reare tyers ??? The link said the opposite. :?
4- The chains will not bee a good help on ice?
5- Some suggested to put the 2 chains "diagonally opposed", but personaly I think that will cause a bad diff. effect :!: , I don`t know about your experienc but think it was a mistake from me to put them "diagonally opposed" but I had too as I could not put them both on rear becaus the chain was cuted.
6- I fixed the chain by adding 3 rigns :D , (the seller cuted them as they were long)
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after all I was using the vocume diff lock when I have got stucked, so I think that it was wrong to put the chains "diagonally opposed".
Any idea how I can get that "British Army exellent movie" on how to use chains ?
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Post by disco2hse »

landdani wrote:5- Some suggested to put the 2 chains "diagonally opposed", but personaly I think that will cause a bad diff. effect :!: , I don`t know about your experienc but think it was a mistake from me to put them "diagonally opposed" but I had too as I could not put them both on rear becaus the chain was cuted.
Yes, you are right. Unless you have front and rear diff lockers putting them opposite each is a waste of time, for obvious reasons.
landdani wrote:after all I was using the vocume diff lock when I have got stucked, so I think that it was wrong to put the chains "diagonally opposed".
Right, I couldn't tell in the video if that was what you had done.
landdani wrote:Any idea how I can get that "British Army exellent movie" on how to use chains ?
No idea, sorry.
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Post by landdani »

Thank you all any way, it was goog help on the 4x4 education.
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