Stage 1 v8 in NZ

disco2hse · Post by **disco2hse** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:49 pm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 439933.htm

map1275 · Post by **map1275** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:01 am

Its strange that the American market hasn't picked up on Australasia as a good source of Series III's.

Anyway, looking at the engine bay picture on this add poses a question for me.
Is there two versions of the large air cleaner?
Not the Range-Rover type nor the Cyclopac fitted to Australian diesels, but the Coopers type as intended for adverse conditions.

The NZ vehicles seem to have a Coopers assembly that is slightly shorter than the one in my car. Mine tends to rub against the heater hose. Heater hoses were fitted from new and not the aluminium pipes.

Bumpkin · Post by **Bumpkin** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:23 pm

Seems to me that the earlier Stage 1s had the big round cleaners and the later ones like my 83 had the oval ones similar to the range rover.
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disco2hse · Post by **disco2hse** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:26 pm

That is the heavy duty air filter most commonly seen in the army models. Makes it quite easy to fit a snorkle to the inlet pipe.

map1275 · Post by **map1275** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:56 pm

Thanks but you are both missing the point. If you look in your handbook it lists two air cleaners:
Standard; ie for UK models which is the Range-Rover type.
Adverse conditions; ie export to Australia models, which is the large barrel.

I'm suggesting there are two versions of the large barrel (but not the Cyclopac version fitted to the Isuzu range).

In my car the large barrel rubs on the heater hoses. The NZ Army barrel I have is slightly shorter than my own. However I find the parts list on has one listing.

Was this a change, does it use a different element...

disco2hse · Post by **disco2hse** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:50 pm

OK, looking at the parts manual there are two codes:

608104 for vehicles numbered up to 186339 and RTC3479 for vehicles numbered 186340 onwards.

Whether yours is longer or shorter, I have no idea but mine does not rub on any hoses.

map1275 · Post by **map1275** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:07 pm

Thanks, my book only lists the one.

Are there two different elements?

disco2hse · Post by **disco2hse** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:07 am

The manual only shows one but lists two:

If in doubt I would measure the part and get the parts supplier to compare it with each of the part numbers.

map1275 · Post by **map1275** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:32 am

Thanks,
I've just downloaded an electronic copy of the parts list. By this I should be using the later type. But as I have an Australian assembled car, almost anything is possible. I will have to compare with the 110 list to see which part carries over.

gary_in_nz · Post by **gary_in_nz** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:59 am

hmmm that firewall around the hinges looks a bit dodgy?? truck could do with some tlc

i saw another stage one today on my random travels down Mahia Peninsula. good looking truck but i didnt have my camera handy.

map1275 · Post by **map1275** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:48 am

I clicked on the 'more stuff you may like' link and there was a selection of nice ex-army Stage Ones. Though all very expensive.

disco2hse · Post by **disco2hse** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:19 pm

$4000 - $6000 for a vehicle in good running order seems about right. Less if there are problems. They are still a good truck and in most cases the army trucks were quite well maintained, the army didn't ever fix anything, they just replaced parts and always with LR original where possible - regardless of price.

Mind you I have found some pretty bad mechanicals on mine, like the rear brakes having two sets of left shoes and on the front left inside spring shackle is off the rear spring (it lacks the spacer to keep the spring bush in place) which means the bush has worked itself out of the loop and the chassis bush is poked as a result. The front bushes are all being done Wednesday. The steering box being installed incorrectly. Various weirdenesses in the wiring....

But on the plus side, the engine is very reliable, there's no rust, all the replaceable parts have been replaced and are as good as new, the truck has always received regular maintenance, it blows little smoke and is well within the range of acceptable emissions,...

In NZ salt is not normally used for ice on roads, grit is used instead. So vehicles are less likely to be eaten out by rust unless they've been used on beaches and haven't been properly washed afterward.

Landies here have always held their price well. Look at the prices asked for similarly aged 110s for a fair comparison. >$10000 is not unusual.