some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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FBW
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some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Hi there

My name is Frank, I live in Germany and have been a Land Rover and Rover V8 fan for many years. So it is imperative to have a Stage 1. Lyre or luckily it didn't stop at one. Over the years there have now been three, with different wheelbases.

First I want to introduce you to the short 88 Stage 1.
Following the trend towards the lush motorized species among the series, I started the > Shorty < project at the end of 2014
Land Rover had built 24 short Stage One that were delivered to the Caribbean. Getting a car like this is almost impossible ...

O.K. then you have to build it yourself!




... like these two real 88 Stage 1s, the shorty should be.

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...sequel follows


Frank
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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...it goes on


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...in reality it didn't go that fast :wink:


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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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The work looks great.

What are you doing with the old 5 door body parts? I am in need of some bits.
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FBW
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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firemanshort wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:47 pm The work looks great.

What are you doing with the old 5 door body parts? I am in need of some bits.

Thank you, I am happy if you like my work.
This is a look back. I built the shorty a few years ago. I've already sold the remains of the 109.





... then more pictures:



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...and then! Shorty is alive !! click >> http://www.dropbox.com/s/4rtlo4w9gft3u4 ... 1.mp4?dl=0


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Frank
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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... and even more pictures


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Frank
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Frank -

These license plate lights appear non-standard to what I have seen in the UK..... and they appear to be the right parts that would fills the holes I could not explain (until now) that I have in the rear of my tub. My project is of Swiss origin - so I assume it might share some peculiarities with a German market truck.

Are these license plate lights available as new replacements?
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Later North American spec MGB. Available at any MOSS outlet.
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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firemanshort wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:32 pm Frank -

These license plate lights appear non-standard to what I have seen in the UK..... and they appear to be the right parts that would fills the holes I could not explain (until now) that I have in the rear of my tub. My project is of Swiss origin - so I assume it might share some peculiarities with a German market truck.

Are these license plate lights available as new replacements?

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Hi fireman

A look at the> Parts List <does not help. There those things are not listed:?
BUT! The "optional part list" sheds light on the license plate. :D

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Typically for products from the UK, the lamps can also be found on other vehicles. Such as. on several US models from Triumph oder MG.


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In the meantime these things are difficult and if they are, they are expensive to get.
Possible sources for complete lamps can be found here.
Attention: Before rushing to order, you should inquire about the shipping costs. be expensive :wink:

https://www.likesx.com/luci-targa-nuove ... es-88-109/
https://www.mgsales.com.au/products/144-220


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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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And here are a few more pictures of the Shorty being used appropriately.

...in the meantime the shorty has been given a soft top.

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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Good tip on the lights. Thanks!

(That poor stuffed moose riding on the rear of your truck - I bet he has seen some adventures!)
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Then we switch to pictures from the next Stage One> following the wheelbases

I bought this Stage One in 2010. The car was once used as a hunting vehicle by the leadership of the former GDR.
The Stage One was offered on the Internet as ".. Honeckers Jagdwagen ..."!

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The condition of the car was unfortunately much worse than described. The vehicle was last registered in Berlin in 2006. The seller also had no evidence that the car was actually "Honeckers Jagdwagen".
One could not agree on price either. My offer that I would take the Landy was out of the question :( ... so drive 500km back home :oops:

About eight weeks later, the provider called me as to whether my offer was still valid ...
> Bought! <


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Inventory:
The Stage One has probably not had a particularly hard life so far, because there are very few "battle marks" and the substance is pleasantly good.

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The grate slammed shut on the right rear of the frame. The side member is between the rear cross member and the arm for the leaf spring. The right side is ok and on the rest of the frame, despite an intensive search, I have only found surface rust so far: O)

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A look under the valve cover revealed only the slightest oil deposits and no wear and tear on the rocker arm shafts. The transmission also shifts very well so that it can be assumed that no 1 is missing before the displayed 43,376 km!

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One thing is certain: the roof, the side panels and the rear door did not originally belong to the car.
And that is where the questions start:
The Landy was originally Light Green and as a new car (!) It was painted quite well and lavishly in a dark green.
Before that, brackets were welded on left and right on which searchlights were mounted. One is still there.

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A winch bumper for a Warn 8274 is mounted at the front. Unfortunately the winch is missing. :(

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The entry steps can be removed without tools, something I had never seen before.

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A separate spare wheel holder was originally installed (unfortunately also missing).

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There was probably no rear door, but the flap of the flatbed version, this was probably attached to the side with the door hinges. The spare wheel holder was probably closed together with the flap on the left “toggle”. This was reinforced!

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The entire stern is lined with an aluminum tub! The thing is welded in the car and can therefore not be removed again! The tub also forms the back wall for the rear bench.

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Along the cappings in the rear there are convertible top locks which of course make no sense in connection with the side panels

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The convertible top locks on the inside of the windscreen frame! Which have now been misused to attach the roof shell indicate a folding top!

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The B-pillar is shortened!

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Interesting are the adjustable covers mounted on the rear doors and padded with leather. Certainly to be able to hang up a rifle.
In addition, the doors are divided and secured with two quick-release fasteners.
Everything was done very professionally.

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There was also a bag (the 2nd one is missing) to store the top parts of the doors. These things fit exactly in the compartment behind the back seat!

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The rifles can be found in a holder behind the first row of seats.

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The one in the rear seat seems to be something special. The fur cover is interesting (the back was probably touched up in a different color).
The first row of seats is also covered with fur (no covers!

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There was also a tarpaulin, but it didn't fit anywhere?

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... it will continue soon ...
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Interesting vehicle.
2 1981 Stage One 109 V8 SWs
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FBW
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Geoff wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:01 am Interesting vehicle.
Hello Geoff,

I see it the same way.





... even more pictures of the interesting vehicle:

... after the inventory there were several topics:

1. Grate at the rear left on the side member and on the rear cross member
2. The clutch just disengages so that it feels as if the screws on the control rod of the encoder are loose.
3. Tons of damage from not using it.
4. The certainly interesting history of the car!

It happens to some that points 1 to 3 suddenly become a full restoration!
... it won't happen to me!


All that didn't come out unexpectedly, I expected it :D :wink:






Then dismantle the Landy ...

During the action I had to find out that there is nothing normal about it. The car was extensively rebuilt in the area of the rear tub. But what was only visible at the 3rd glance !!
When I bought it, I noticed that the VIN didn't fit. Stage 1 has LBCAV2AA ... for a station wagon there must be an M instead of the A (in the 4th position) ?!

It quickly became clear that the VIN was correct, the Stage One was delivered as a 3-door pickup.
The rear tub is not that of a station. The 3-door bathtub was converted to a 4-door ... what an effort!


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... after a relatively short time, the technology is easily accessible ...

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The clutch master mechanism is also perfectly accessible.

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... and how does it look under the lid?

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... then it goes to the rust spots on the frame

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... the frame was freed from dirt and old paint, treated with Fertan (inside and outside) and brushed 3x with frame paint.

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I was very lucky and got a really good overdrive.
Only a few parts were missing that I could get or manufacture myself. The overdrive was probably lying unprotected on the shelf, so that dirt got into the first store. Rinsing everything out didn't help, then I swapped bearings. Unfortunately, the thing had to be completely dismantled. Now the thing runs like cream. :D

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One of the next tasks was the swivel balls, there had to be new ones: O (.

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I've already got all the parts. Unfortunately there was currently No Railko sockets for the Stage 1.
Since the Railkos cost little money for the series, I also ordered a set to be able to adapt them for the V8 if necessary.
Things just don't fit like that. Since the wear on my sockets was limited, I cleaned them nicely and reinstalled them with new pins.

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Leather gaiters, new wheel brake cylinders and brake lines, locking plates and some paint were also available.

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I also repaired the few crumbling spots on the bulkhead.

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I had removed the plate that closes the lower area to the clutch bell. Unfortunately there was a little too much oil ... the Siri of the crankshaft does not do its job :(
... so then also the engine out.

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... of course, when the thing is already out, I also checked the inside to make sure it was all right.



Brakes and brake lines were completely redone.

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At the front there were 6x new tie rod ends (the rubbers were like liquorice), the steering gear and steering relay show no signs of wear.

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it is also completed in the rear area :wink:

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If already then >> camshaft, oil pump, bearings, oil sludge etc. everything is back to perfect.
The V8 is waiting to be reinstalled here.

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... so and then it was wedding!
and in with the V8.

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Sequel follows!

greeting
Frank
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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... and a few more pictures of the reconstruction.


I just revised the technology. On the outside, Stage 1 is allowed to keep its historically interesting look.


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...so langsam nimmt die Kiste wieder Form an...

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I don't want to be reminded of the scratching + brushing that's why there is no picture :( :roll: :wink:



... and this is what the sub-floor looks like now!

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... and here's a look under the pane frame ... I just wiped through with a dry brush!
The decision is easy ... I don't do anything

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A winch bumper for a Warn 8274 was mounted at the front of the Stage One (at that time the assembly was primarily done with the welding machine)
The winch was missing when you bought it, so you have to get another one!

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Unfortunately, I couldn't find a used winch at a reasonable price.

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.... it looks a lot better with a winch than without !!

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The spare wheel should be on the hood! But I don't want to drill any holes in the original hood ... I already have one with a spare wheel holder, the color doesn't quite match

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Later it should look like this:

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At the back you can also slowly see what it should be ...

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There's still plenty of work left in the middle ...

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... and there will be light.

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The vehicle registration document states that the winch must be covered while driving!
But you still need a cover.

... first a "pattern"

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...done

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The gear lever for the retrofitted overdrive still needs a hole in the transmission tunnel, but where exactly?

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The top is still a quick and dirty solution. :D

..the hood with spare wheel holder is now also mounted.
Hitting the color wasn't that easy.

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The quick and dirty bikini top solution is unfortunately far from weatherproof and therefore not so suitable for everyday use.
So the old roof was painted and two side panels were installed.

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... and here is a preview of the next stage 1.

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greeting
Frank
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Re: some exotic Stage 1 in Germany

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Looks fantastic Frank - didn't you sell the HCPU?
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