v8 Buick 4.9 300 1964

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Fastpaddy
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v8 Buick 4.9 300 1964

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hi,
has anyone already put a engine off buick in his car?
I can buy a 4.9 300 from 1964 with automatic gearbox.(3 speed)
Is it possible to put a transfer box from a range rover classic to it?
many thanks
Rudi
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Series 2A late 1969
Series 3 Stage One V8 1982
Discovery 2 2004
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Re: v8 Buick 4.9 300 1964

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The early 1980's Rangie Classic had the Torqueflite 727 3 speed auto, so I guess if your autobox is a TF727 then it should be possible?
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Re: v8 Buick 4.9 300 1964

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If you're going to put that in, you might want to think about upgrading the axles to 24 spline, changing the brakes to disc on the front, changing the CV's and possibly putting a more robust front diff.
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Re: v8 Buick 4.9 300 1964

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The 300 was the successor to the early BOP215s (all alloy the unit that Rover bought the rights to) and came with a thin-wall iron-block right? But retaining the alloy heads up to '64 before going all iron, the one that BOP switched to after the cost and difficulty of casting the alloy block?

**BOP = Buick Oldsmobile Pontiac** **215 = 215ci or 3.5L**

If I remember correctly the BOP 215 (which became the Rover V8) only shared a bell housing pattern with the 198 V6 (early Fireball) - which in turn later lead to the dauntless V6 and 3800 both of which are popular swaps into 80-inch Jeeps.

There's a great article on it here:http://ateupwithmotor.com/model-histori ... 6-history/

You can certainly build a hybrid BOP-Rover V8 (though I suspect this is based around the 64-iron heads) which allows you to improve the stroke - see here: http://www.britishv8.org/articles/affor ... ker-v8.htm

However as quite rightly mentioned - if that is a TF727 then you are set. The one fitted to the RR was allegedly not as robust as the true US-built units which could handle enormous amounts of torque. The TF727 was connected to the Lt230 in the RR with an odd divorced adaptor - you should be able to buy the parts quite cheaply.

Assuming the engine mounts are comparable I say go for it - would be an incredibly interesting build with huge tuning potential.

If its just a way to replace a tired RV8 however, just wait for the right parts.
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Re: v8 Buick 4.9 300 1964

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I didn't took a risk in buying this engine. After some more research of my engine, it appears that my engine is a high compression 9.35 with heads of an SD1, it's a later type of Range Rover Classic with the big carburators.
It isn't the original engine, but I'm still happy with it! :D
Series 2A late 1969
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Thanks for the update. Must say I'd have made the same decision - a 9.35:1CR 3.5 is probably the best Rover V8 about - simple construction and decent enough power output (130-140bhp?) for us drum braked dinosaurs, and without the block cracking issues of the larger bored engines.
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