Revenue weight - problem at MOT time

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glencoyne
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Revenue weight - problem at MOT time

Post by glencoyne »

Copy of something I just posted on the S2 club forum:

I just took a 1963 2A 109 petrol to my local MOT station. They now have the new computerised testing system which they did not have last time. They input the chassis number into the system and then informed me that they could not carry out the MOT.

Reason given was that the vehicle has a revenue weight of 3499kg gross, and must therefore undergo a class 7 MOT test (commercial vehicles 3000 - 3499kg GRW) which most MOT stations are not equipped for. I was given a computerised printout which showed the reason for rejection as 'Vehicle details entered incorrectly at test registration - wrong class vehicle'.

Sure enough, the V5 states revenue weight of 3499kg gross. I thought this might be a one-off error: with a 2A weighing about 1800kg empty, if you load it up to 3499kg the chassis will probably bend in the middle. But then I checked the V5s for other commercial bodied Land Rovers that I have at the moment, and found revenue weights on the V5s as follows:

1971 2a 109: 3499kg
1964 2a 88: 2465kg
1959 S2 88: 3499kg
1980 S3 Lightweight: 3499kg
1983 S3 88: 3499kg
1958 S2 109: 2465kg
1987 90 hardtop: 3499kg

Houston, we have a problem. It looks as though DVLA have been using 3499kg as the default revenue weight on Land Rover V5s for a very long time. Apart from the shortage of class 7 testing stations, the test costs more than a class 4 test. I don't know if it is any tougher.

So I rang DVLA and was told that to change the revenue weight, all you need to do is enter the new weight on the V5C, sign it and send it back to them. I will do this today, but first:

Does anyone know what the correct revenue weight (gross laden weight) is for the various models of Land Rover? The only ones I have found so far (from a Series 3 handbook) are:

Series 3 88 inch (all) 2120kg
Series 3 109 inch 4 and 6 cyl (exc. 1 Ton) 2710kg

I guess these apply equally to Series 2 and 2A equivalents, but it would be nice to have this confirmed.

Richard
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Post by V8darren »

Hi Richard,

I hope you don't mind but I copied your question onto another forum.
There are quite a few replies you may want to have a look at concerning the MOT classification of Land Rovers.

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/showt ... post366768

Darren
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glencoyne
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Post by glencoyne »

I emailed VOSA and received the following, hopefully definitive reply:

Thank you for your e mail.

Definition of a dual purpose vehicle as stated in the 6th edition MoT
Testing Guide:

Dual purpose vehicles 3. A `Dual purpose vehicle' is one that is
constructed or adapted for the carriage of both passenger(s) and goods or
burden of any description; and has an unladen weight (ULW) not exceeding
2,040 kg; and which either: a. is so constructed or adapted so that the
driving power of the engine, is, or by the use of the appropriate controls
can be, transmitted to all the wheels of the vehicle; or b. satisfies the
following conditions as to construction: (i) is permanently fitted with a
rigid roof, with or without a sliding panel; (ii) the area to the rear of
the driver's seat must: · be permanently fitted with at least
one row of transverse seats (fixed or folding) for two
or more passengers, and those seats must be properly sprung or
cushioned and provided with upholstered backrests, attached either to
the seats or to a side or the floor of the vehicle; and · be lit on each
side and at the rear by a window or windows of glass or other transparent
material having an aggregate area of not less than 1,850cm2 on each side
and not less than 770cm2 at the rear; (iii) the distance between the
rearmost part of the steering wheel and the backrests of the row of
transverse seats satisfying the requirements specified in the first
paragraph of item (b) (ii) (or, if there is more than one such row of
seats, the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the
backrests of the rearmost such row) must, when the seats are ready for use,
be not less than one third of the distance between the rearmost part of the
steering wheel and the rearmost part of the floor of the vehicle.

So to summarize ;-

Is it 4 wheel drive
Can it carry goods and passengers(at least one passenger)
Is the unladen weight below 2040kg

If yes to all above questions then it is a class IV test.

If no to any one of the above questions
gvw under 3000kg-classIV
gvw 3001-3500-classVII
gvw over 3500-plating & testing

Regards
Margaret


So if a tester tells you your Landie needs to be tested class 7, you can quote the 6th edition MOT testing guide at him chapter and verse.

Richard
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